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 Post subject: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:39 pm 
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I've been playin trombone for a few years.I've always been using a 12c mouthpiece and I have found out that it gets very uncomfortable for me to play on one even after I've warmed up.Now i'm at the conclusion that its becuz I got big lips, but I wanna know if I should try using a bigger size mouthpiece and if so what size should I try? and will I still be able to get a good range on a bigger cup.


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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:38 am 
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The problem could be a couple of things. If the "buzz" isn't even, then you're going to have some serious problems no matter what you play.

Without being to see for my self, here's what I would ask:
1) are the corners of your mouth locked at all times?
2)do you shift your embouchure when you play in the higher register(s)?
3) do you press against the mouthpiece when you play in the higher register?
4) are you able to keep buzzing when you take the horn off of your lips?

If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, it could be an embouchure issue. Granted, Playing pedals witha 12C can be quite a task (all the Bass Trombone players I know play on AT LEAST a 5, alot of 3GS!!!. I' m switching to a 9C after playing years ona 6 1/2 and a Schlike. I would probably say, play on a 6 1/2AL; it may be more comfortable. Realize this: (IMO) if you answered "yes" to any of the aforementioned, your problems will still exist.

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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:41 am 
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I used to play on a 12C in the stands to get a higher range and 6/2 AL to get sound on the field. Later, I discovered the Schilke 47--it gave me the comfort on my lips and the extended range in both directions (esp. pedal tones) I now play on a Schilke 47 and 51.

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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:03 am 
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TeacherPoppa wrote:
I used to play on a 12C in the stands to get a higher range and 6/2 AL to get sound on the field. Later, I discovered the Schilke 47--it gave me the comfort on my lips and the extended range in both directions (esp. pedal tones) I now play on a Schilke 47 and 51.


I was looking on this site : http://www.mouthpieceexpress.com, I was looking at the bach mouthpieces and they have one called the 15cw that seems to be what im looking for what you think?

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http://www.mouthpieceexpress.com/catalo ... s_id=14959


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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:45 pm 
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15!?!?! heck no.............your tone will be shot to Pluto. Go with something in between a 6 and 12.

151!?!?!? you might be able to have an edge, but control is one thing and tone...if you can do it on a 6 1/2..then you're really screaming!

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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:06 am 
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well maestro creamin aint an issue I just notice that my lips wear out qyickly on the 12c even when i warm up so i need a mouthpiece that can accomodate these big lips i got.


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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:38 pm 
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^^^get a 6 1/2 or a 5!

you'll love it! promise!

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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:54 pm 
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^^^^ Thanks for the advice fellas I really appreciate it. :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:22 pm 
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no problem. Let me know how that works out!

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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:40 pm 
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I AGREE WITH MAESTRO. THE FIRST THING I NOTICED IN COLLEGE WAS THE BIGGER HORN AND MOUTHPIECE. I HAVEN'T SEEN A 12C SINCE I LEFT HIGH SCHOOL.

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 Post subject: Re: I need advice from a trombone player
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:26 am 
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you what to have a dark rich tone on a low brass instrument. keeping in line with that and your big lips the best thing for you to get if you stay in the bach family is a bach 5g. it has a wide rim for comfortable playing and a wide throat which will create less resistance. with less resistance you will have a more pure rich dark tone and better control at higher dynamic levels. i was a fan of the 6 1/2al for years but i gain more comfort from the 5g.


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